tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post594606157493170794..comments2023-04-25T13:20:01.724-07:00Comments on Arizona Eagletarian: Let the games begin -- Sen. Carlyle Begay files 8 bills for 2014 sessionSteve Muratore aka Arizona Eagletarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01404761986345385458noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-43187596282696749932013-11-22T00:32:41.351-07:002013-11-22T00:32:41.351-07:00Irrelevant. Once they're introduced, they can ...Irrelevant. Once they're introduced, they can be assigned, amended, and reported out. You have them to use - whether or not you will use them is another matter. History would seem to indicate that you, sir, will. Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312651386787900801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-64591568391486695282013-11-22T00:28:57.915-07:002013-11-22T00:28:57.915-07:00You know what wastes time, Kavanagh?
Pee bills. ...You know what wastes time, Kavanagh? <br /><br />Pee bills. Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312651386787900801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-19095031240087053052013-11-22T00:06:38.997-07:002013-11-22T00:06:38.997-07:00The legislature is not a debating society. It is a...The legislature is not a debating society. It is a lawmaking body. I debate the issues on Horizon, Politics Unplugged, Sunday Square off, forums like Saturday's Stand Your Ground one and blogs like this. There is a time and place for everything. We debate bills in the legislature that have a chance of passage to improve them, not for sport or to comply with some liberal equal time rule.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896955780433298549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-27566686450119314032013-11-21T23:20:45.589-07:002013-11-21T23:20:45.589-07:00By the way, John, what about Democratic voters in ...By the way, John, what about Democratic voters in the district you represent? Don't they deserve to have diversity of ideas considered in the state legislature?Steve Muratore aka Arizona Eagletarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01404761986345385458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-31966560880311949082013-11-21T17:19:10.094-07:002013-11-21T17:19:10.094-07:00To recap, Republicans who control both chambers do...To recap, Republicans who control both chambers don't want to "waste time" hearing any bills that they don't support. And those Republicans don't want to give anyone they disagree with the opportunity to have any one else know about ideas that differ from theirs.<br /><br />And some GOP members act vindictively toward any Democrat that criticizes them openly.<br /><br />Sounds awfully Machiavellian to me. Thanks again, John.Steve Muratore aka Arizona Eagletarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01404761986345385458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-55170838289597448562013-11-21T11:08:32.215-07:002013-11-21T11:08:32.215-07:00Dem bills rarely get heard for two reasons. First ...Dem bills rarely get heard for two reasons. First and foremost, they tend to be ideologically liberal so the conservative dominated chambers do not want to advance them. Given that they would never get the votes to pass, hearing them would only waste time and give liberals a platform to advocate liberal positions. However, the time issue is more important than the platform one. Rs cannot get all the bills they want through in the limited time we are in session.<br /><br />Second, some Dems (a small number) have "burned bridges" with Rs by repeated harsh attacks. Consequently, nobody is going to help them. <br /><br />I should note that some Dem bills are heard. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896955780433298549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-50000969197938655312013-11-19T21:36:55.502-07:002013-11-19T21:36:55.502-07:00You raise points that suggest numerous questions. ...You raise points that suggest numerous questions. Would you care to expound on why Democrats rarely get their bills heard? It's still an open question as to whether Begay is even genuinely a Democrat. There's also the question of who is mentoring him. If, as speculation had it last summer, Begay is closely working with Biggs, that raises other questions. I certainly do not have the answers, but one can't learn much without asking the questions first. There are plenty more questions to be asked than I specified here.<br /><br />I appreciate that you chimed in with a "reality check." That implies that you made some inferences about what you think I implied with this post. That, in itself, is intriguing. Not that you necessarily inferred correctly.Steve Muratore aka Arizona Eagletarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01404761986345385458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478354375758846359.post-19175020602838600612013-11-19T21:03:22.049-07:002013-11-19T21:03:22.049-07:00Democrats rarely get their actual bills heard. Do ...Democrats rarely get their actual bills heard. Do you really think their "vehicle bills" will even get out of their garages?<br /><br />State Rep. John Kavanagh (with a reality check)Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896955780433298549noreply@blogger.com